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CoC - The Falklands War

Postby maelmordha » Fri Dec 26, 2014 9:51 pm

Well the new year is coming so time for some more madness...... Lard are doing a modern variant for CoC so it's time to look at the Falklands conflict.

Gripping Beast and Newline Designs do 28mm stuff for 'down South Atlantic way'. Anyone know of any others?
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Re: CoC - The Falklands War

Postby WingAttackPlan-R » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:52 pm

Secular jolities to all...
QRF do `Cold War Brits` in 15mm, and a company called A Call To Arms (yes, really) do `1970`s Modern British Infantry` in 20mm which are a resculpt of the old `Britains` toy soldiers from yon days.
Also from way back is Matchbox` `NATO Paratroopers` which were infact 1970`s UK infantry wearing berets in 20mm.
Of the three, Matchbox` is the best with a range of SLR, Sterlings, Carl Gustavs, GPMG, 81mm Mortar, radio ops, and them modernised L4 Bren thingies, and is currently available from Revell in 1/76th scale packaged as `British Paratroopers, Falklands War`; 42 soft vinyl plastic sojers in a box for 6 quids.
Cheers, Ian :)
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Re: CoC - The Falklands War

Postby maelmordha » Sat Dec 27, 2014 2:15 pm

Excellent Ian, I'll have a look at those. The old Matchbox stuff was excellent and I still have a few unbuilt kits kicking around. Hopefully they do Argies too.

mjfigures also do both sides but the only thing that looks decent are the penguins!
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Re: CoC - The Falklands War

Postby WingAttackPlan-R » Sat Dec 27, 2014 11:17 pm

The Matchbox figures still rival new stuff made 30 years later, even if some of the mortars etc. can be a little ropey.
The Argentinians are the problem, they used American clobber, massive parkas, and Belgian rifles, which nobody seems to do in 15mm or 20mm. Flames of War Israelis from Battlefront in 15mm are probably the closest with their FN-FAL rifles, but their fatigues are distinctly mid-east, with rolled-up shirtsleaves- not recommended for the South Atlantic unless one likes blue as a skin colour.
Bah!
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Re: CoC - The Falklands War

Postby WingAttackPlan-R » Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:15 pm

The CP models look quite nice.
On an unrelated note, but linked by some of the above, SandS models do a really nice range of 20mm and 28mm WW2 to modern vehicles, specifically for gaming.
http://sandsmodelsshop.com/shop/

Technicals, SF jeeps, armour- NICE!!! ;)

Cheers, Ian
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Re: CoC - The Falklands War

Postby maelmordha » Mon Dec 29, 2014 2:22 pm

Thanks Ross. I was looking mainly at 28s but the 20mm stuff is starting to look better for this and faster to paint! My most appropriate buildings are also in 20mm.

Lard are making a variant of CoC for the Afghan war but I can use those for the Argie bargy instead (Afghanistan is way too recent for me). The only thing is 20mm is more for company level and that's moving into 'I Aint Been Shot Mum' territory. I have scenarios for the Arab Israeli Yom Kippur conflict for that though (but that's another story).

Ok I cant resist.......

Booster Ridge for example (although best done in 1:300 I suspect).

IDF Forces
Israeli Tank 1st Platoon
    Level 3 Big Man. Level 1 Ace
    ThreeSho't Kal
Israeli Tank 2nd Platoon
    Level 1 Big Man, Level 1 Ace
    One Sho't Kal
120mm Mortar Battery
The 12cm mortar may fire H.E. or Smoke
rounds. As it has minimum range of 76” it is
off board. Forward Observation is provided
by the Big Man in the 1st Platoon.
Israeli Recon Unit
    Level 1 Big Man
    Four jeeps
    Israeli M3 with a Bazooka Team
(The Israeli Recon Unit and Bazooka Team
are Special Reinforcements to be used at the
discretion of the referee or a gracious Syrian
player.)
Syrian Forces
Syrian T‐55 1st Company
    Level 2 Big Man
    Ten T‐55s
Syrian T‐55 2nd Company
    Level 1 Big Man
    Ten T‐55s
Syrian T‐55 3rd Company
    Ten T‐55s
Syrian Mechanized Company
    Level 1 Big Man
    Ten BTR‐50 or Ten BTR‐60s (based on
    availability of models)
(The Mechanized Company and 3rd T‐55
Company are Special Reinforcements to be
used at the discretion of the referee or a
gracious IDF player.)

The El Al Counter Attack
IDF Forces
Israeli HQ
    Level 3 Big Man Lieutenant Colonel Yossi
    Amir. Ace level 3
    Sho't Kal, Halftrack, Truck
Israeli Tank 1st Platoon
    Level 2 Big Man, Ace Level 1
    Three M51
Israeli Tank 2nd Platoon
    Level 1 Big Man
    Three M51
Israeli Tank 3rd Platoon
    Three M50
120mm Mortar Battery
The 12cm mortar may fire H.E. or Smoke
rounds. As it has minimum range of 76” it is
off board. FO from the Big Man in the Israeli
HQ.
Israeli Recon Unit
    Level 1 Big Man
    3 jeeps
Reinforcements:
    Israeli Tank 4th Platoon
    Level 1 Big Man
    Three Sho't Meteor (20 pounder guns)

Syrian Forces
Syrian T‐55 1st Company
    Level 2 Big Man
    Ten T‐55s
Syrian T‐55 2nd Company
    Level 1 Big Man
    Ten T‐55s
Syrian Mechanized Platoon
    Three BTR‐50's or BTR‐60's
Katyusha Battery
    Forward Observation from the Big Man in
    the Syrian T55 1st Company
Reinforcements:
Syrian T‐55 3rd Company
    Level 1 Big Man
    Ten T‐55s
(This third Company only arrives on board if
one of the initial Companies is no longer
combat effective and the Israelis have not
advanced far enough for the Israeli
Reinforcements to enter)
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Re: CoC - The Falklands War

Postby WingAttackPlan-R » Wed Dec 31, 2014 2:43 pm

Nice scenario, the actual battle was all about holding the line until reinforcements could be mobilised and dispatched, very close run thing on both sides.
I`ve got most of that in 300th scale and could substitute btr-50 with MTLB which is very similar for gaming purposes.
Anorak Alert :!: - by the time of the `73 war there were no 20 pounder Sho`t tanks, only Sho`t Kal with the new American Continental diesels, or the standard Sho`t still in reserve units, with the more flammable British Meteor petrol engine. The IDF was midway through re-engining their Sho`t fleet when war began.
Both the Sho`t and Sho`t Kal had 105mm L7 guns by 1973.

I`d like to give this a go sometime.
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Re: CoC - The Falklands War

Postby maelmordha » Wed Dec 31, 2014 7:20 pm

I actually have most of this in 1:300 as well including some very nice GHQ Centurions (I suppose strictly they're 1/285 though).

I'll start getting the gear together for that and we can do both scenarios sometime in February if you like. Terrain is easy enough and we have the tanks so all we need is the date. I'd like try out IABSM for these if possible (that's what the scenarios are for).
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